Happy Friday! Today on the blog I wanted to share with you a chat I had with PAPAYA's co-founder, Gina Katkin (pronounced Gee-na). Gina is a driving force behind PAPAYA and our fearless vision keeper. Please leave any follow-up questions in the comments section and we'll try to address them in later posts.
How did you start PAPAYA?
I went to a trade show with a friend of mine to work in her booth. While there, I walked around and thought “I want to make products” that saying kept going around in my head, but didn't know what kind of products. Then Anahata (my daughter) called and said “Mom, I am coming home from Belize I guess I will go back to Seattle”. I said," No, go to Seattle get all your journals and come to LA I have an idea." She did. We bought a Mac and a scanner and put her in a Photoshop class. I would go to my “day job” and Anahata would work all day at home. I would come home and find images taped all over the walls and we would work with them till we had images we liked. Once we hit 30 Images we printed cards and started hand glittering them……How long did it take before you were able to quit your other jobs to focus on Papaya full time?
I was working as an “PeopleSoft Functional Analyst” - Whew that was a ride for a creative creature. It took 1 and a half years before I quit my “day job” - I remember it well, my last day was 5/5/2005…I like 5’s a lot now! It was, as one of our favorite images says “A leap of Faith”. I jumped and PAPAYA! caught us.
What were the first products ever created?We produced cards 1st b/c that was the cheapest product to put art on. However, if you could see the walls in our apartment (Anahata and my Grandson, Rowan all lived together for 3 years to get PAPAYA off the ground) you would have seen Anahata’s sketches of bags, jewelry, shower curtains, bedding, pillows, wall art, and lot’s of paper/stationery products. We had a strong vision and could actually see our visions on the wall b/c Anahata is such a great artist. We still have not made all the items we had on the walls from the beginning – there is so much more fun to be had.
If we were to take a snapshot of you on this day three years ago, what would you be doing?
I was managing 25 “glitteriest” – we were still hand glittering and putting together all of our cards and products by hand and not keeping up with the demand. We were all smashed into a small warehouse, I had my desk in the front of it and all the glitteriest were at tables…it was like school… I was feeling like if this is what my life will be like, managing people doing repetitive labor I don’t think I want to do this…..but machines saved me – I like that!
Believe…..and when you don’t…close your eyes, take a deep breath and believe. See and feel “it” inside of yourself first, then don’t let that feeling fade. I remember spending Memorial Day week-end glittering cards and shipping orders after working a very long week at my “other” job….then I had to load all the boxes in the car and take them to the UPS store. I fell down the stairs, I dropped the boxes, I was tired and I started to lose it………something inside me said “QUIT – This is the difference, right here, right now”….and all the FEELINGS of my vision of PAPAYA! flooded in and it was easy to believe again – The rest of my day was great. It may sound cheesy or like this is not the important stuff to build a business, but it is how I did it.
Which books, television shows, and/or magazines do you like to read to inspire you?
My reading is off and on – when I do read, anything by Jerry & Ester Hicks (Abraham) – Love Them …uhhh, I am in my non-reading cycle right now so my mind is blank.TV – HGTV…I got cable about 2 years ago and I am just starting to get tired of it but, I have been addicted to HGTV….ohhh and super chessy Dog the Bounty Hunter (what is wrong with me – maybe I should not cop to that). As for magazines, Anahata has subscribed to lots of European Mags – art, fashion and home ones– I am loving them all.
What is one of your favorite memories of Papaya?
Paying off the last of the massive credit card debt I went into to fund PAPAYA!(From a Facebook fan, Tasha) What's the worst business decision you made and how did you recover from it?
For me, it is relationship based – keeping someone on staff that should be gone (it sucks firing people) or if a vendor does not deliver on something. The recovery has been to be solid in my role as the keeper of PAPAYA! and say what needs to be said, not “put up” with circumstances that are not a fit. It has helped me grow as a person, it has freed me in many ways – feels great.
Where would you like to see Papaya go in the future?
Ohhhh –this is so exciting! Besides the growth of new products, we have 2 really wonderful projects that are just in the “vision” stages, they will grow and change us for the better as a company. I am holding them close right now, not to be secretive but to nurture them so they sprout strong roots. But….so fun and exciting!What is it like working with your family?
Sooooo great! How wonderful that we all really do well together and it is really fulfilling for me. I can’t wait till my grandson is old enough to come join the staff! It has pushed us all to see each other as the people we are and not just family.Working for PAPAYA is such a fulfilling experience in several different ways. How do you maintain this vision for your entire team?
PAPAYA! is a creative place. If it is not beautiful, nurturing and a place that staff WANTS to come too, the creativity will not flow. I want to work with this wonderful staff for years and years, I want to see them grow and love work as they love life. I want them to help stretch PAPAYA! into more and more….the fun must never stop…and it is not as much fun to do it alone!



I love the interview, and the fact Gina and her family are enjoying the successful results of her creative vision, is a dream come true! I've had a priviledge of working with Gina at her "day job". From the day one she struck me as a nurturing, giving, and strong-willed person. She was an inspiration for me then, and she is even a stronger ispriration for me now.
Posted by: Laoura- Los Angeles | 10/24/2010 at 12:40 AM
This was a really interesting post - I'd love to hear more about the development of the business. And Dog the Bounty Hunter is fantastic!
John
http://www.rapidsloth.com
Posted by: Fred | 07/16/2010 at 10:23 AM
Fun to see the old warehouse!
Posted by: nara | 04/10/2010 at 07:44 PM
wonderful interview...Thank You...!
Love the whole part about "believing in yourself and when you don't, take a deep breath, close your eyes and believe..."
Have a great day...and keep up the great work...!
p.s. seriously, keep it up ~
Suzanne
Posted by: suzanne | 03/28/2010 at 05:03 AM
thanks for the interview. i can't wait to see what's new on the papaya horizon. i'm decorating my daughter's "big girl room" in papaya! bird giclees right now. i'm loving it. what a fun company.
Posted by: beth | 03/26/2010 at 12:32 PM
Gina, you are the real deal my sweet friend!! I love you and am so proud of you and sweet Ana!! xoxo Amy
Posted by: Amy Hanna | 03/25/2010 at 09:06 PM
Great interview! How did you come up with the name Papaya!? And how exactly is it pronounced?
Posted by: Alicia | 03/23/2010 at 11:30 PM
Thank you, stories like this keep me going!! I know my craft will be my full-time career soon and I won't have to clean houses forever!!
Posted by: Tara | 03/23/2010 at 02:10 PM
Enjoyed it Thanks
Posted by: Alicia Hanson | 03/22/2010 at 10:48 PM
Thank you for sharing your story.
I am an artist and always in awe of your images and colors! And love the new, fun, more "out there" sayings on the cards...like "eat cake bitches"!
Hooray!
Posted by: outi | 03/21/2010 at 07:53 PM
And I for one am so glad that PaPaYa was created, I love everything and I love giving as gifts. My little studio is decorated with several of your art panels. Just love it all! Thank you for not giving in and going forward with your plan!
Posted by: Mart | 03/20/2010 at 06:13 PM
This was wonderful, thank you so much for sharing. You are inspiring, indeed.<3
Posted by: C. | 03/20/2010 at 04:36 PM
What a great interview, so inspiring and motivating. My favourite part being: "Believe…..and when you don’t…close your eyes, take a deep breath and believe. See and feel “it” inside of yourself first, then don’t let that feeling fade." Just what I needed to hear, thank you so much. I love your products, your notebooks are my favourites. I keep them as journals/sketchbooks all over the house.
Posted by: Rosy Lady | 03/20/2010 at 03:27 PM
I think this company is on of the most enlightened, fun, and light-filled I have ever found. I just this month found out about your products and love them so! I have a question, "Would you let me know if I could put this interview and possibly some of my own questions and your answers on my blog?" I would love to know that more people are getting the buzz about the joy you are scattering. Let me know if that is something you would like! Hope to hear from you and have a blessed weekend!
Light and wishes,
Amy Sperry Faldet
Posted by: amy sperry faldet | 03/20/2010 at 05:12 AM
This was a really interesting post - I'd love to hear more about the development of the business. And Dog the Bounty Hunter is fantastic!
Elizabeth
Posted by: Elizabeth | 03/19/2010 at 08:06 PM
Thank You for your honesty! I to watch Dog the Bounty Hunter......anyone who knows me cannot believe it! Your friend the Dog follower........
Posted by: jackie | 03/19/2010 at 04:06 PM
This is a great interview! Thanks for sharing your story. Stories like this inspire, inspire, inspire!!!
-Peace,
Briana
(Another Abraham-Hicks fan)
Posted by: Briana | 03/19/2010 at 02:56 PM